Things The Interview With Sadie Shows Us

Sadie Mae Glutz was a pseudonym of Charles Manson friend and follower Susan Denise Atkins. She used the name from 1967 to 1969, finally ceasing its usage whilst incarcerated. Here are some things we learned from her interview with “Deborah”.

  • Sadie is her preferred name.
  • Her friends included Mama Cass, Michelle Philips, “that Beach Boy guy” (Denis Wilson), Ken/Kenneth (Kenneth Anger) and George Harrison.
  • She has degrees acquired whilst in prison – qualifications that she holds in distain.
  • She tried and failed to hang two of her victims, simultaneously.
  • Though convicted of eight murders she only actually killed two people.
  • Of the two she killed, she only knew Sharon’s name. The other victim whom she admits to stabbing multiple times – and whom she does not remember his name during the interview – was Wojciech Frykowski who was actually shot, beaten and stabbed.
  • She has a convenient memory. Wojciech Frykowski was actually attacked by all three assailants (Sadie, Tex, and Pat) in the Tate house – not just by Sadie as she claims in the interview.
  • Sadie tells fibs: she originally claims to have had sex with The Fab Four in their hotel room. In truth which she later admits in this fictional interview, she only had “sexual relations” with one of them. She laughs when confronted with the truth.
  • Sadie at one stage advocates mandatory oral sex to make the world a happier place. She was known as Sexy Sadie for a reason!
  • She claims to be a Christian, and insists that her murderous philosophy is akin to that of Christ dying on the cross.
  • Sadie claims to like prison life, because it gives her the freedom to think.
  • Toward the end of the interview Deborah asks how Sadie is feeling, and observes that she does not look well. At the time Sadie was dying from cancer. At the end of she interview which is terminated due to Sadie’s obvious difficulties, she thanks Deborah.
  • Sadie asserts that Linda Kasabian was present at a planning meeting for Helter Skelter (Tate-LaBianca et al) and that Charlie had no role in the planning. On two occasions Sadie implicates Linda in the murders. This continues a grudge against Linda dating back to the pre-trial phase in which Linda gained immunity.
  • Throughout the interview Sadie expresses herself through highly technical language and philosophical concepts. Deborah remarks that she doesn’t understand what Sadie is saying.
  • At one stage Sadie mentions if she had killed Shorty “things would have been better”. “Shorty” McShea was a Manson associate murdered by someone in “The Family”. Sadie’s statement suggests that she did not kill him.
  • Ultimately, we learn that Sadie Mae Glutz is 100% unrepentant, but uses her claimed Christianity to mask her beliefs.
  • The final statement made by Deborah serves three purposes. (1) It shows the danger of allowing any Manson Family follower the opportunity to express their ideals to the outside world, and (2)  Deborah’s repeating of Sadie’s anti-normative anti-society mantra indicates that she has fallen under the influence of that way of thinking. And (3) the final words by Deborah, in apparent sympathy with Sadie, indicate that Sadie’s philosophy is applicable to contemporary society. Indeed, it is a stark and haunting threat merely in its observation.

Don’t forget “Wear A Flower In Your Hair – A dialogue with Sadie Mae Glutz” is now available for pre-order from Amazon Kindle (USD$0.81, AUD$0.99, GBP£1.02). Note that these prices can change without notice. The book is released on January 17, 2015.


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